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@uk1000 For sure this part ⬆️! Though the lawsuits are still in the early stages, it calls into question how Fiverr will potentially deal with any legal or financial fallout if the courts rule in favor of the artists and/or Getty Images. I am skeptical if they can effectively enforce their own policy since there's so many people eager to use AI to make money, who aren't aware or don't care that the image generators exist in a legal and ethical limbo. Right now on Youtube, there's probably hundreds of videos extoling the virtues of AI image generation as "an easy, no skill, quick way to make income", and they give figures that feel so vastly unrealistic, but alot of people right now are desperate to make money, so they go in for it. I am also not aware of any lawsuits against ChatGPT at the moment, but given that there is now more discussion happening within the writing community about it, it's not hard to imagine that there could be soon. I doubt publishers will want to face mass plagiarism and copyright suits, so I think that many are now going to wait and see how the two lawsuits in progress go. Voice actors are becoming increasingly alarmed by audio AI using their work without getting consent or paying them, though they feel they aren't as visible as artists, which I hope will change as awareness spreads. Visual artists have had a rough time with people threatening and harassing them when they oppose the use of their work in AI models. Some of the accusations range from artists being elitists who are gatekeeping creativity, trying to stop innovation and being called Luddites- to more ugly things such as doxxing and artists being told to self-harm.

I was shocked to learn this past month that FIverr is going to allow generative AI gigs to be sold on their platform. Currently, there are many legal and ethical complications surrounding this technology. For months, artists around the world have spoken in opposition to AI generated content, due to the fact that the datasets used to train AI consist of millions of copyright protected photos and pieces of art. These images were used without license, consent, compensation or credit given to the artists. This issue is perfectly illustrated by someone being able to use a specific artist's or photographer's name in the prompt text in order to generate imitations of that person's work and style. Currently, the US does not give AI generated work copyright protection, and in the UK, the government has rolled back a policy that would have given AI developers near unparalleled exemptions for datamining after the policy was met with significant backlash by both the music industry and visual artists. Linked below is an article on the rollback of the UK datamining exemption: https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/british-government-scraps-plan-for-ai-text-and-data-mining-copyright-exception/ Fiverr's decision looks even more baffling to me in light of there now being two lawsuits against AI companies, one of them by Getty Images, and the other filed on behalf of visual artists. Artist Lawsuit Against AI: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ai-stable-diffusion-stability-ai-lawsuit-artists-sue-image-generators/ You can view the PDF of the lawsuit here: https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/myvmogjdxvr/IP%20AI%20COPYRIGHT%20complaint.pdf Getty Images Lawsuit against Stability AI: https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/getty-images-lawsuit-stability-ai-12-million-photos-copied-stabile-diffusion-1234656475/ You can view the PDF of the Getty Images Lawsuit here: https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/24412807/getty_images_vs_stability_AI_delaware.pdf In recent weeks, there has also been growing concern around AI's ability to generate deepfake visual and audio of real people, including celebrities and streamers. These deepfakes have been used to spread misinformation, to harass, and to create non-consensual p*o*r*nography. While deepfake technology has existed for a few years, what makes this new iteration potentially more dangerous and terrifying is the speed at which deepfake material can now be generated and spread, and how it will progressively become harder to distinguish from real photos or video/audio as the available models improve. Below is a link to a news story detailing the Atrioc deepfake porn scandal: https://www.insider.com/atrioc-caught-qtcinderella-ai-picture-twitch-deepfake-controversy-streamer-trauma-2023-2

And this, ya’ll, is what caffeine depravation looks like in its rawest form- or at least depravation 😬 lol. I am also typing from my comfy sleep pocket, but I gotta get up and make lunch, then go boop the snoot on some cows who are behaving badly 😲!

The payment terms specifically said: Filing a transaction dispute or reversing a payment through your payment provider or your bank is a violation of these Payment Terms. Doing so may get your account temporarily or permanently disabled. Note: Once you have filed a dispute with your payment provider, the funds will be ineligible for a refund due to our obligations towards the payment provider. And there you have it right there, “ineligible for a refund”. Because you lost your patience, and filed that dispute with PayPal in the first place, you left Fiverr no choice, and you backed yourself into a corner. One thing that I’m not clear on, is that you say you placed the order, and then the next day, you found your account was suspended. So, that leads me to think that either with this specific order, or some other way in which you broke the TOS beforehand, led to your account being suspended. Which would mean that your dispute filing with PayPal was NOT in fact your first violation. I’m not saying that Fiverr is omnipotent or even right all the time, they’re obviously not, but you didn’t take the time to think this through, and then when you reached out to the seller outside of Fiverr, that was the last straw. Your suspended account was involved in an active case that you put forth, so you were in essence still legally bound by the TOS. Thinking that you were above them was another misstep on top of the existing mess.

I’m sorry, that’s a large sum of money, I know how difficult it must be to lose it 😟. It does say in Fiverr’s Payment Terms and Conditions under the Disputes and Cancellations section that: We encourage our Buyers and Sellers to try and settle conflicts amongst themselves. If for any reason this fails after using the Resolution Center or if you encounter non-permitted usage on the Site, users can contact Fiverr’s Customer Support department for assistance here. BasicsOrder cancellations can be performed on Fiverr, when eligible, by Customer Support or through the Resolution Center per order.Filing a transaction dispute or reversing a payment through your payment provider or your bank is a violation of these Payment Terms. Doing so may get your account temporarily or permanently disabled. Note: Once you have filed a dispute with your payment provider, the funds will be ineligible for a refund due to our obligations towards the payment provider.In the event that you encounter an issue related to the service provided in an order, you are encouraged to use the Site’s dispute resolution tools to attempt to resolve the matter.It’s unfortunate, for sure 😖.

I’m glad you were able to work it out 🙂 !!

@dyanak Hello, I’m curious how you came out with setting your delivery times? Did it finally allow you to complete that portion of your gig?

Hi, it looks like you may have encountered a site bug. @lead_master98 makes a good suggestion, you could try to save your current progress and reload your internet browser to see if it will refresh. Your gig should be saved in the draft tab on your gig management page, but as a precaution, you may want to copy/paste all of the sections you’ve already entered into a separate file on your computer before doing a reload.